every day. >> dana: it has been on my mind ever since the reagan defense forum. >> bill: heart warm moment on the pitch we say. the new york red bulls playing a rainy game in new jersey. some players giving coats to kids out there to support them. in return the team beat miami 4-0. nicely done. he gives his jacket and says you, young man, are now protected from the elements. >> dana: it's unusual for miami to lose by that much. i thought you meant for opening day where there is a pitch. all right. "the faulkner focus" is next. here she is. >> harris: any minute now immigration and customs enforcement or ice is set to give an update on deporting illegal border crossers. what's their plan? our entire nation is the victim of biden's open border policies,

an economic and national security crisis. but for president biden, the chaos is doing something different. he wasn't counting on it. it is making americans take another look at if they want to reelect him. fox polling shows voters trust former president trump to do a better job on immigration by a double digit margin. look at your screen. 18 points difference here. we will monitor the news conference by ice officials and keep you updated. more breaking news right now. court action on donald trump's georgia election interference case. it is the first hearing since the judge decided to leave left leaning district attorney fani willis on the case. of course, there was a catch. fani willis had to ditch her former lover and lead prosecutor nathan wade. she called him a southern gentleman and he was cheating on his wife.

anyway, with wade gone, the case moves on. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." arguments are underway on motions to dismiss the case from trump's attorneys and one of the co-defendants. trump wants to throw the case out entirely. his attorneys cite the first amendment and since he served as president his speech is political speech. the most properect theed speech under the constitution. one of trump's co-defendants attorneys with this. >> the freedom to associate, freedom to petition to government and the freedom to speak. all the conduct part of this indictment is covered by the first amendment. if you think about it, it makes sense that a judge should be the one that protects that right. you shouldn't have to go in front of a jury to protect your constitutional rights. >> harris: jonathan serrie is outside the courthouse. >> good morning. in addition to that first amendment issue regarding former president trump, that attorney we just saw representing one of

the co-defendants also took issue with the wording of the indictment. take a listen. >> when you look at the indictment you see a lot of language that says fake electors, things like that. dulyly elected, fraudulent. those are legal conclusions. we're trying to have those dismissed saying the state can't just put those legal conclusions in there. that's something that a jury has to decide. >> this is the first hearing in the georgia trump case since march 15th when special prosecutor nathan wade resigned from the case as a condition for district attorney fani willis to continue prosecuting it. >> he was more involved i think with witnesses and negotiating plea agreements. very important work but not the kind of stuff we would see in the courtroom in oral arguments. i don't see anything changes how the district attorney presents their case in the courtroom. >> bill: several defense attorneys have said the judge's

ruling earlier this month didn't go far enough by giving fani willis that option to remain on the case. so the defense is expected to appeal that judge's order. >> harris: all right, jonathan, thank you very much. andrew is here, former federal prosecutor and u.s. military veteran. great to see you today. all right. we're back in court on this one. what do you think about trump and the co-defendant's argument about the most protected type of speech, political speech. >> today is all about the first amendment. these are things i argue all the time in court. when the argument of the prosecution is all based on what donald trump said. we have to look at what the first amendment really protects. it protects everything that is short of it being criminal speech. that includes wrong speech, it includes outrageous speech, it includes ridiculous speech. when donald trump is engaged back a few years ago in his discussions about the election and the outcome of that

election, the prosecution has to do more than just prove that he was wrong in his statements. that speech has to actually be criminal conduct. not just circular speech in its right. if you rob a bank, the direction to somebody to rob a bank, that could be criminal. simply saying i would like $1 hundred thousand isn't criminal speech even if you say it in an aggressive or a directed tone. then you put that into a political bubble and that's even more protected because people who are engaged in that political speech are allowed to say things that really do butt up against the fringe. it seems basic. >> harris: how long do you think it will take to make that basic argument? >> the argument is going on in court right now. judge is in a tough position. when the judge rules on that in the course of a criminal trial is not clear. there is can you look at it based on the indictment alone and the judge make a ruling or does the judge have to have facts come in during the course of the trial and make the ruling

as the facts develop? that's the tough place. right now we're in a premature place to see the judge come back with a dramatic ruling for donald trump and ruled against some of the co-defendants on a similar motion in the past. >> harris: he has to be one of the most recorded people right now on the planet in terms of his speech, donald trump. whenever he speaks. so i can't imagine they need very many facts brought into the case whether or not he actually engages in political speech. >> i see that point. the point being, though. >> harris: i'm just stating the fact. >> we know what he said and clear what he said. the question is does that violate the law? that was the argument this morning whether the judge can reach that determination at this point. donald trump has repeatedly said that this is protected speech. there is very strong arguments for that. we have to turn back to how the criminal code actually applies to the judge looking at this. this may not be the point this happens. >> harris: fani willis, they can

appeal. what do you think happens with that? >> well, the appellate court is going to defer to what the trial judge said. but the trial judge in this case when you look at the ruling that he reached, he is very critical of the law, kind of confused what the precedent is. he says that effectively in his motion in his ruling and he also says that he isn't particularly confident in his ruling or at least words to communicate that. i think the appellate court will step in that they support the ruling he made or draw some sort of line in the sand as to where the law perhaps need to be clarified. we're a couple months away from hearing a decision from the appellate court on that. they have 45 days to reach their determination whether they will make that decision. but the appellate court does have an important point to make because the trial judge seemed uncertain and we need further clarification. that's why the trial judge certified that to the appellate

court, i think. >> harris: she kicked her ex off the case and see how the case holds together. california judge seems skeptical during arguments to dismiss hunter biden's nine federal tax charges yesterday. his attorney abbe lowell ripped the prosecution as vindictive and spurred by political pressure from republicans. the judge said there was 0 evidence for his claim. the prosecution argued the defense has no argument and has resorted to simply attacking the prosecutors. the judge said he will decide by april 17th. former acting attorney general matt whitaker and attorney leo terrell in agreement on the chances. watch. >> it is highly unlikely. all the arguments that lowell is making are about 80% accurate. it sounds good when it is reported or newspaper article, but it actually under the law is not exactly accurate. >> abbe lowell saying it is

under gop political pressure and there is a deal that was in place that was never basically completed between the government. so it is going to be the motion for dismiss will be denied. >> harris: the indictment accuses hunter biden spending money on anything but his taxes trying to avoid paying and cooking the books of his business and up against gun charges in delaware. court date for that is set for early june. we'll need a larger than 70 foot wall with all the cases against hunter biden and we haven't moved very far on any of this. >> he does have his day in court coming up quickly. the summer will be about hunter biden's trials. both of them that we're expecting to be dealt with. when matt and leo say that there is not a high chance that the case will be dismissed, i agree with that. the problem is with hunter biden's overwhelming evidence of his criminality, we have to look at how badly david weiss has

messed up this case along the way. delaying for years and years, then creating the sweetheart deal that jeopardized the case and now when we actually look at the case in california, there are many arguments that abbe lowell is making and he is a fantastic attorney and working hard for his client. all of them go back to the points of what was appropriate along the way, even calling into question whether david weiss was appropriately appointed as special counsel. both sides have been critical of david weiss being elevated to this position of special counsel. >> harris: wasn't he a federal attorney in the home state delaware of both the president and his son at some point? >> the u.s. attorney for delaware and -- >> harris: there might be conflicts of interest. >> d.o.j. regulations say special counsel aren't supposed to come from employees within the d.o.j. a little wiggle room there. we have somebody who is compromised based on the sweetheart deal, the years it

took and statute of limitations that took place. it is a problem. >> harris: did he mess up or motivationally misact? that's what we'll have to find out about david weiss. thank you. democrats looking like they are in a panic over the third party threat to president biden's re-election. new fox polling shows that worry actually could be warranted. plus the white house still facing backlash for not blocking a united nations resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire in israel's war against hamas terrorists. >> this particular resolution calls for a cease-fire without even releasing the hostages. it made 0 demands on hamas and put a great burden on israel. our friends around the world that an ally walked away from its friends in a time of struggle. >> harris: a sweetheart deal for hamas. what about the hostages? the issue has the president in a

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>> harris: the white house on defense again on monday the u.s. abstained in a vote from a u.n. security council resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between israel and hamas trifrts. they didn't vote no or veto but they abstained. i will hold my cards. the resolution passed despite not calling for the release of any of the hostages. the white house once again insisting this part. >> what caused the shift? what is the president's reason

for allowing this to go through? it is a change. >> no, it is not a policy change. we've been very clear. i disagree. we have been very clear in order to get a hostage deal that would lead to a cease-fire, we also have to get the humanitarian aid. we believe it is all connected in that way. so that is where we stood. >> harris: hum. prime minister benjamin netanyahu canceled a delegation because we abstained but now reversing course. the two sides, the u.s. and israel, are working now on a date for those meetings. they will try to revive that. as we watch tensions rise between israel and the biden administration, a new fox poll shows trump with a double digit lead over biden when it comes to handling foreign policy. this hour a double digit lead on immigration for trump over

biden, a double digit lead on trump over biden on foreign policy. keeping score here. here is a look at the president's comments since hamas's october 7th massacre and it raises questions over where he stands now when it comes to our greatest ally in the middle east. >> president biden: i come to israel with a single message. as long as the united states stands we will not ever let you be alone. i have no notion the palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. i'm sure innocents have been killed and the price of waging a war. i'm of the view, as you know, that the conduct of the response in gaza -- in the gaza strip has been over the top. major military operation in

rafah should not proceed without a credible plan, a credible plan for insuring the safety and support of more than 1 million people sheltering there. they need to be protected. i told bibi -- i said we need a come to jesus moment. >> harris: steve hilton fox news contributor. so is there a shift? >> there is a massive shift but it is not surprising. what you saw there is exactly what many of us have been saying about biden for years. for all his time in public life, 50 years in politics, we've seen what he is. he goes from one position to another on every issue depending what is best for him politically. a totally weak and unprincipled machine politician who will say anything and do anything to cling to power and climb the ladder. that's what we're seeing now. honestly, harris, i thought biden couldn't go any lower than he did with that disgraceful

exit from afghanistan. he has gone lower. if you look at what he said over the last few weeks or so, that israel's behavior is over the top even as just this week in the "new york times" david brooks writing after speaking to many military analysts that israel's conduct of the urban warfare in gaza, they are going to greater lengths to avoid civilian casualties than we did in iraq and afghanistan. by the way, when biden was vice president. then you look at what jake sullivan has been saying israel should not pursue the remainder of the hamas death squads and their army in rafah and use another way of doing it and the resolution in the u.n. add it up and what it tells you this biden administration, their official position regardless of what they claim, the official position of the biden administration now is for israel to lose this war against hamas because they are worried about losing the election to donald trump. >> harris: they don't care the

blood thirsty terrorists will win if that happens. again and again and again and they will do what they did on october 7th again and again. we've already been told by their leader who is up in some kind of nice digs in qatar. okay. we've seen countless anti-israel protests target biden and administration officials. just this week alone a member of an anti-israeli youth group gathered outside the houses of austin and sullivan and chanting and holding up signs they were so classy, dropping manure and so on and so forth. it is a problem for the left. watch. >> allowed them to deny coverage. [shouting] >> president biden: everybody deserves healthcare. >> harris: while that was going on, also this week they were protesting as you just saw a visit by israeli's defense

minister in washington and then president biden in another instance responding to one protestor who interrupted his speech in north carolina. >> president biden: allowed them to --] shouting] >> president biden: everybody deserves healthcare. [shouting] >> president biden: be patient with them. [shouting] >> president biden: they have a point. we need to get a lot more care into gaza. >> harris: you got to see that part twice. watch this part senator tom cotton what biden says they have a point to pro-hamas he canlers, on x, he signals that anti-israel radicals can push him around. a sign of weakness inviting more disruption and a gift to hamas. steve, this makes every point you made and it is sad because these are what we call -- they aren't going away.

>> exactly. sometimes you have to laugh at how ludicrous it is. anti-israel rhetoric, anti-israel idiots. what are you talking about healthcare in gaza? talk to hamas about that. they have been running gaza for year. it is so ridiculous and makes you wonder what has been going on in our education system. so many people so utterly ignorant. >> harris: when you were in london and in government there with the former prime minister, david cameron, how did you handle this? what are we doing -- what are we missing? >> the thing is that you've got -- this is the golden rule of politics that i've seen in many years of being involved. you have to have principles and sometimes they will go tested. but if you don't have conviction and you don't have principles, margaret thatcher first one in

my experience in my lifetime to be known as a conviction politician. then yes, there will be protests. margaret thatcher for maybe a year the vicious protests that accompanied a strike by mine workers but she held out. it was the transformation of the british economy that resulted. you have to stick firm. for a few protestors to blow you off course is just utterly pathetic. >> harris: thank you for reaching back on that. liberal media hypocrisy front and center after its firing of former rnc chair ronna mcdaniel. the network msnbc caved to the pressure from its on-air talent. "new york post" writes this. the news firing is must-see tv and it proves leftist media set rules they never follow. the "wall street journal" is calling it nbc's ronna mcdaniel's tantrum. the conformity caucus chases the former rnc chairwoman off the

air. jason chaffetz was with me yesterday. >> when the people that preach diversity, equity, inclusion are the very first people to deny people and push them aside because they have diversity of thought, and what they did and how they did this to ronna mcdaniel is so abhorrent and so wrong. they don't want anybody in their club that doesn't tow the exact line that rachel maddow and chuck todd and some of these others want them to tow. >> harris: i've often wondered which executive will be first to go? they hired her and knew who they hired. >> of course. the whole thing is an utter shambles. the management of these companies, what is going on? by the way, they are lying about it as well. so they've tried to say it was nbc news and the corporate parent. msnbc, the guardians of the left didn't know anything about it.

the woman who runs msnbc was in on the decision. is she totally out of touch with the people on her air is an utter shambles from the corporation. let's give them what they are saying, election deniers, you can't have an election denier. they have add election deniers non-stop. stacey abrams and hillary clinton. it is an out rage. >> harris: we showed a montage of that yesterday. steve hilton, great to have you in "focus." a dangerous complications for recovering efforts in baltimore and the bridge disaster there. the chemicals from some of those containers are what we feared. they are leaking into the water and just one of the many problems now officials are facing as that critical port remains shut down and will indefinitely. we don't know when they'll open it again. numbers don't lie when it comes to president biden's out of

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>> harris: divers found the bodies of two of the six workers on baltimore's francis scott key bridge when it crashed into the river below. it is a recovery looking for the bodies of those other four. there are major safety and economic concerns over the deadly bridge collapse and it

grows by the hour. every day they are missing out on their economy a lot of money. some of the containers on that ship that hit the key bridge were carrying hazardous materials. 764 tons. the containers broke, some of them, and chemicals are seeping into the water. transportation secretary pete buttigieg said this, fox business's grady trimble near the collapse site. grady? >> at least ten ships were rerouted from here to the port of baltimore to other ports according to the ship tracker marine traffic and as we talk about where the ships are going to go, if not here, the governors of new york and new jersey put out a joint statement and here is what they say about their port authority saying it can take on additional cargo and have directed the authority to further evaluate all available resources to minimize supply chain disruptions. here in baltimore, the bridge is

still in the river. they're working on a plan to remove it. the coast guard says crane barges are on the way. officials don't know how long it will take to clear the wreckage or when the shipping channel will reopen. just getting the port back open, according to early estimates, could cost as much as $50 million. >> the collapse of the key bridge is not just a maryland crisis. the collapse of the key bridge is a global crisis. the national economy and the world's economy depends on the port of baltimore. >> today the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, is meeting with the shipping companies to come up with a plan while the port is temporarily closed. they don't know how long it will be closed. harris. >> harris: he and the ntsb chair both were aware of the facts yesterday that this is now an

environmental challenge as well. we don't know how much of the 764 tons of hazardous materials have leaked into the patapsco river but it is happening. the chairwoman said you can see the sheen on the water. let's concentrate on america first if we can. right now in america is a river that has chemicals in it. we'll see what happens. grady, thank you for your reporting. always great. >> we took 216 criminal migrants who posed significant danger to our communities from 28 different nationalities off our streets. the 216 migrants arrested have a combined total of 456 criminal convictions. amongst them including 85 convictions for drug trafficking. >> harris: we were watching for this live during this hour and

an update immigration and customs enforcement or ice just gave its update on its latest nationwide crack down. as they try to tout all that success the facts on the ground tell a very different story. border patrol data show ice deported fewer than 5% of all illegal border crossers who entered the country last year. a dramatic drop from the 30% sent back during the trump administration. and according to a recent report, immigration judges dismissed the deportation cases of 200,000 because the dhs had messed up the paperwork. murders are taking notice of all of it. fox polling shows 2/three disapprove of the job the president is doing on immigration and they trust trump on this issue again double digits plus 18% for trump.

the national border patrol vice president. how in the world are we taking more people in and they're illegal, and not deporting them at this point? >> it's ridiculous if you start looking at the numbers. hats off to ice for saying they apprehended these people. let's be honest there are a couple thousand short when you look at the numbers. non-stop. these individuals know they can continue to come into the country. absolutely 0 consequences for what they are doing. you saw what happened in el paso. look at the numbers that are coming through there lately. again, as we've said. the issues in arizona with the gotaways and continuous numbers coming across. when you saw these people in el paso but look at areas in arizona where they get 1,000 daily is what they are averaging. where are they going? they are going to different parts of the country. you hear all these people saying they're coming to work and do a lot of jobs. they are going to places like new york and washington, kansas,

boston, it is all military-age men. if you ask ice where are these people now? they don't have a clearance. >> harris: they can't tell us. >> they have arrested 200 plus right now. how about everything else that's going on? where are they at? tell us where they're at. >> harris: we know arizona so well because that's our home, at least mine part of the year. 1,000 plus a day is not what they've been used to. texas, they were in the thousands a day and the governor of texas did some things the federal government didn't like but they worked. now new mexico is starting to feel it. i want to chat with you about that a little bit. politically now it is a blue state. a governor, biden won it by almost 11 points in 2020. so on and so forth. he won the largest counties there mostly latino voters. he is shedding latino voter support. talk to me about new mexico if

you can >> we're seeing what is happening on the border. there is a serious turf war going on just south between arizona and new mexico. you have various factions that turf war. i posted pictures on social media using these tanks that they are using that they decommissioned on the mexican side. a serious turf war going on. when you start seeing that, in order to have these turf wars they need money. they get funded by money. how are they making their money by bringing drugs in the country and working with individuals and charging the tolls and making their money. they flood one area like el paso and bring drugs in another area. it is a huge operation. now the president of mexico making demands on what our country needs to say. i'm shocked we didn't have a response and that's where the problem is. we're seen as a weak administration right now and

this administration continues to not do anything. they are catering to the people coming across an putting americans last. not even second but last. that's the problem with this administration right now. >> harris: you are telling us the facts on the ground. appreciate you. thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: president biden bringing in some big high-profile power, a star studded huge dollar fundraiser in new york city is planned for tonight. compare that to a somber scene not too far away. thousands of new yorkers are mourning the loss of a police officer killed in the line of duty this week. president trump will attend his wake today. power panel next. all these games on directv— and no satellite on the roof! think about this: blue jays, cardinals, orioles... what's missing? the andean condor? no, walnut-brain! pigeons! they'd rather name a team after socks! to be fair, we're not very athletic.

>> harris: remembering a fallen nypd officer jonathan diller today on long island, new york. diller was shot and killed during a traffic stop monday by a suspect with more than 20 prior arrests. he never should have been out. former president donald trump is expected to attend today's services. today's "new york post" cover with a message. this is your fault from the police union to anti-police city

council members. bryan llenas has more from long island. bryan. >> harris, the wake for fallen nypd officer jonathan diller begins this afternoon and runs through tomorrow. an incredibly difficult day for his wife, stephanie and infant son, ryan, who he leaves behind. also for his friends, colleagues and the entire community here in long island. look at the video on the left. you will see the memorial growing outside of his police precinct in queens, new york. on the right you will see american flags and blue ribbons up and down the streets of this community in long island. a lot of first responders live here. hundreds of people came together last night to honor him who was killed during a traffic stop on monday. the suspected shooter is charged with first degree murder. he had reportedly 21 prior arrests. last night officer diller's brother-in-law broke down as he

spoke about diller, who joined the force three years ago. >> he loved what he did. he was born to be a cop. he was born to be a hero. he died being a hero. he died doing what he loved. i will forever -- forever be a better person because of him. >> some $2 million is raised online for the deller family. president trump is expected to stop at the wake. he was invited by the republican county executive bruce blakeman. >> harris: god bless officer diller and his wife and infant son. thank you very much, bryan. well, it is a tale of two cities. as bryan just reported a source tells fox news former president trump will join those mourning the loss of nypd officer on long island. president biden will join former presidents obama and clinton for an expensive fundraising

expected to raise $25 million. we don't have any confirmation that he might not stop by that wake but we haven't seen anything to suggest that biden would be there. we are expecting to see big anti-israel protests, however, outside the fundraiser. we have oh he seen it many times before. he is losing people on the left. we've been showing you this video this hour and his response. they have a point. no one knows what his point is. protestors are demanding a cease-fire and chanting things like genocide joe. biden also faces a growing number of uncommitted movement voters. it all began in michigan with more than 100,000 people voting uncommitted over biden in the primary. it hit other states as well and could be a problem in today's primary in the key state of wisconsin. two groups are using $250,000 to push for more uncommitted votes. democrats so far have been brushing it off. >> i don't think we should be

concerned about this as a political matter. >> i don't think this is going to affect his vote total but it will affect his turnout in base. >> michigan is a purple state. i've been saying that for a long time. we are a state that frequently votes uncommitted. >> harris: power panel now. matt gorman former senior advisor to tim scott and david carlucci, former new york state senator. how big a deal, matt, do you think the uncommitted column is? >> it's going to be a big deal. look, it is easy right now, february, march, april. i challenge these folks in october or november to look me in the eye and say they will vote against joe biden when the campaign is in high gear. what also worries me more than anything else is this uncommitted vote is clearly changing biden's stance with israel. he has gotten harder on israel in the last couple of months when they need us the most.

you can see daylight between the u.s. and israel where this there wasn't before. it is having foreign policy consequences and that scares me most of all. >> harris: can you address those fears, david? >> it is a policy issue more than a political issue. if we look at the uncommitted vote historically president obama received 12 or 11% when he ran for re-election in 2012. uncommitted is easy. not a name you put on the ballot. not someone you have to make a choice with the baggage and problems they might have. the blank slate. an easy thing to send that message. matt is right. at the end of the day democrats will come home. there is no way the people that are protesting and doing this protest vote will actually support donald trump. donald trump has the same problem but more of a problem in the middle if we look at the primary votes. his problems with the far left, not the middle. >> harris: you hit one point. i want to challenge you to hit

the other one. the protests against the president calling him genocide joe. nothing he can do now can force israel to stop defending itself and going after killers just like we went after isis and those who hit us on 9/11. so there is probably very little that they would revive a delegation that would come here to the united states is a hopeful sign, but everybody is focused on taking out hamas and getting the hostages home. the u.n. resolution didn't do both of those things. it left off the hostages. you have a problem on the left with joe biden's policies and daylight between joe biden and israel. how do you address it? >> i agree with you. i don't think there is much that joe biden could do to appease many of those concerned on the far left. >> harris: the difference now in policy, the shift in relationship between the united states and israel. >> there is a lot of time between now and november. and joe biden is going to work

as hard as he can to get hostages released, to ultimately have a cease-fire but peace in the region. not an easy issue. not a lot we can do to win over the voters on the far left making the protest vote. it is a small percentage of the overall vote. >> harris: well, the people that we are supposed to stand by after a world war where we said we would never forget, they are not a small group. we'll get into it on another day, gentlemen. thank you. we have breaking news now. sam bankman-fried has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for multi-billion fraud. i want to bring back former prosecutor now. we're reaching out to him and he will be up with me in a moment. this is something going on in court all morning long. the question has been would they

hit someone in this category in this lane who had done so much with people's nest eggs? there were a lot of people who had wealthy bank accounts so on and so forth but also people who trusted that what sam bankman-fried was telling them was true. and what we've seen today as soon as we get andrew to join me again, the one thing i would want to know, is this a statement sentence, 25 years? is this in concert with all of those charges of multi-billion dollar fraud? how do we sit right now with this very big sentencing? and there were so many people who were taken down, bank accounts, there were celebrities also brought into this as potential victims of some of the decisions that he made and led. andrew now, what do you make of 25 years behind bars? >> a mitigated sentence. the government had asked for

upwards of 50 years. he was looking for a much more minimal sentence. he did exercise his allocution rights. he came before the court and apologized and talked about how difficult this has been. the judge recognized his autism and some of the other matters of mitigation that he raised. i think this is splitting it right down the middle, 25 years being half of what the government was looking for. >> harris: it is a statement? >> not so much a statement as much as a reflection of the facts here. the government going for 50 years is -- would have been a heavy sentence. this shows that there were pieces of mitigation here. >> harris: and that there were victims definitely. andrew, thank you. twice this hour. appreciate you scooting in on the breaking news. "outnumbered" after the commercial break. >> woman: thanks. >> tech: my pleasure. have a good one. >> woman: you too. >> tech: schedule today at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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